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Two questions came in about CCSVI:
"I would like an opinion on whether you think it is "worth a shot" to try venous angioplasty for chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency (CCSVI), especially when you have a progressive form of MS for which there is no other treatment available?" The other was "Why do you think CCSVI only works well the first time" Answer: There has been a lot written about Chronic Cerebrovenous Insufficiency (CCSVI) and MS, including the treatment of this condition with the so called, "liberation procedure”. This has raised the hopes of many patients and initiated a cottage industry of angiographic intervention by physicians with highly questionable motives. After all the procedure makes a lot of money. Let me be blunt and straight to the point:
There is no current reason to pursue either evaluation or treatment of CCSVI unless;
I understand that there are those of you who feel desperate and will try anything for your MS, but this treatment can be harmful. There have even been deaths directly attributed to the “liberation procedure”. Please avoid evaluation or treatment for CCSVI unless the following conditions are met:
Rip Kinkel
4 Comments
Lori Batchelor
4/1/2014 02:44:01 am
You mention Tony Traboulsee, who is also in charge of the BC CCSVI Registry in which he acknowledges "that half of patients who’ve had vein stretching procedures (after MRI or ultrasound imaging at private clinics) have anecdotally reported quality of life improvements and some symptom (fatigue, brain fog) relief". As I am part of this Registry, I happen to KNOW that they are checking medical records to confirm improvements by neurological testing. I have copies of my records that indicate my EDSS (disability scale) score improved from 6.5 down to 4, following treatment for CCSVI in March/2011--a remarkable result, especially since I have been secondary/progressive since approx. 1995 and was NEVER SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE.
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Denise Baillie
4/1/2014 10:53:40 pm
I, too WAS a secondary-progressive MS patient and had been on Disability for four years before I travelled to the US for my CCSVI treatment (with TVAM). I went into my procedure hobbling with a walker and the next day I was walking in the deep sand on the beach without even a cane! I have returned to work full-time and at my last appointment with my MS neurologist, he said I am now "stable". That is supposed to be impossible with Secondary-Progressive MS, but it happened to me. I know at least 5 people who are still doing great as many as 3 years after their procedure and yes, Lori B. is one of them. Rip Kinkel, you mentioned the possibility of death from this treatment; with over 30,000 treated I have only ever heard of 3 or 4 deaths and most of them were due to drugs that were prescribed when stents were used. There is one drug that is still in use that has given a permanent, progressive brain infection to at least 400 people of whom about 100 have died so far, but you failed to mention that. Is that because it would actually make the CCSVI procedure look safer than some of the pharmaceutical poisons they want to force on us? I believe that your reply has only served to show where this website's interests lie!
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4/2/2014 12:39:33 am
The reason many naysay CCSVI is because too many earn very high salarys to promote MS drugs on top of their very high salarys which they also get profits shares and commissions on. Its too easy to work out whats really going on. Its unethical not to do CCSVI.As for clinical trials this is utter rubbish because I had bladder botox given to when it was NOT clinically trialled yet given to me. 2 weeks later I had internal bleedings and infections , then had to move home 2 weeks after with a male catheter fitted as they had ran out of female ones. One neuro is being sued in CANADA for naysaying CCSVI
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Dr. Kinkel
4/2/2014 04:32:12 am
I am very happy to hear some of you report improvements following treatment for CCSVI, but please read my prior comments carefully; this is a serious medical procedure and is still experimental. It should only be done in the context of a controlled clinical trial. The purpose of this website is to provide accurate information and useful solutions for people with MS emphasizing overall health and wellness. We believe in no silos. This means that no single group will be allowed to dominate any conversation. When I checked for questions and responses on the website this morning I found the 3 angry responses to my comments about CCSVI followed by a notation that 13 people liked my comments. An 80% positive response rate on a controversial topic is the best I can accomplish. There are other sites and blogs devoted to advocates for CCSVI. Please search them out if you are interested, but keep in mind my original comments. This is an experimental procedure and in my opinion should be done with the regulatory controls required in the United States to ensure the safety and well being of people with MS.
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